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Shas'Saal
- VK-Duelist
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Post subject: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Jul 30 2012 11:49 |
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Joined: Mar 04 2012 12:26 Native English speaker?: Yes
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgj8fmeQnB4This, this is just an insult to most Tau players. I mean, Aun Va? SERIOUSLY? Hell, they didn't even do anything right. No commanders, no Tetras, 1 squad of Broadsides, and no Kroot.
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Shas'Ui
- Crooked Bird
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Jul 31 2012 12:22 |
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Joined: Oct 23 2009 05:41 Location: Western Canada Native English speaker?: Yes
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A real class act there. Disliked.
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Shas'Ui
- Unusualsuspect
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Jul 31 2012 12:43 |
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Joined: Aug 13 2008 08:41 Location: San Diego, California, USA Native English speaker?: Yes
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Factual mistakes gleaned from a single viewing: 1. No XV-8 Commander. 2. Failsafe Detonators, as Special Issue wargear, cannot be taken by a Team Leader. 3. Stealth Suits are mentioned as having only a 5+ cover save out of cover. They have failed to account for Stealth and Shrouded stacking. Tactical mistakes gleaned from a single viewing: Nigh. Unto. Innumerable. 'nuff said. Imperium propaganda quality, if that. May our enemies listen to their idiocy, and plan accordingly. 
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Shas'Saal
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Jul 31 2012 01:02 |
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Joined: Mar 04 2012 12:26 Native English speaker?: Yes
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Actually...
They did saw anyone with skype can "teach" them the correct way and put their money where their mouth is.
Thing is, I honestly thought someone from ATT would done this.
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Shas'Saal
- Adderfist
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Jul 31 2012 01:43 |
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Joined: Sep 20 2011 10:41 Native English speaker?: Yes
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You have no clue how tempting it is...
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Shas'Saal
- HawtDawgFriedRice
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Jul 31 2012 02:06 |
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Joined: Apr 10 2012 04:55 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma Native English speaker?: Yes
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Initiating tactical face palm protocols 
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Shas'Saal
- Shas'o Haruhi
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Jul 31 2012 04:18 |
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Joined: May 15 2012 11:26 Native English speaker?: Yes
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Did you ever see the other Tau army list video they made? It was just as bad, I'm done with BoW after this video. It's way too obvious they have no clue what they are talking about even though they are supposed to be "professionals" of this game.
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Shas'Saal
- Amruin
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Jul 31 2012 04:22 |
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Joined: Mar 15 2011 04:54 Native English speaker?: No
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Correct they had another show where they failed once again to comprehend the codex , if i recall correct what they had said then was that the Tau need dedicated cc units like terminators. What amazes me is that most of the comments (at least in the first page) if not all show how wrong these two guys are. And one question comes to my mind do they even read the codex or just blurt out random stuff? I personally think its the latter.
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Shas'La
- duckinedit
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Jul 31 2012 04:37 |
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Joined: Nov 25 2010 05:05 Location: Oregon, Willamette Valley Native English speaker?: Yes
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I haven't watched very many BeastOfWar videos. And I am glad, because they could only pollute my mind with idiocy. I can't begin to describe how ridiculous that whole thing was. I hope they get a clue with the mass flood of negative comments at how incredibly bad that video was... Obviously they are used to just taking the most expensive named character and rushing up without any thought as to strategy within the game.. Something many melee based army players may also be unfortunately used to. On the upside, many people will under estimate us after they see such a video. Hahaha
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Shas'Saal
- Dearborn
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 01:26 |
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Joined: Apr 06 2012 06:41 Location: Union City, CA Native English speaker?: Yes
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My friend just sent me this (Trying to convince me to play competitive, instead of just modeling), I actually started getting a headache from the stupidity. These are the kind of people that force me not to go to my local GW. When I started Tau, everyone said, oh I guess you'll be using a lot of stealth suits since all you can do is run away. I had lurked ATT before I started and I saw how much potential we have. People tell me how Tau will be dropped, it could be years before we get an update, try to tell me how to run my army. I don't go around telling Space Marines that their Tanks are bricks, all there models are badly painted, and there fluff is stupid (Which is my opinion I won't force it on others). When you go and post a video for the world to see that can offend people who enjoy their play style with a passion, that is uncalled for. I couldn't believe two people, who are found to be very reputable, would put something like this online. I don't know how I'll sleep tonight because this kind of junk really gets on my nerves, to the core. Troops, prepare the Hammerheads and man your suits, tonight we go to war!!!!! 
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Shas'Ui
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 02:35 |
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Joined: Aug 27 2009 10:35 Native English speaker?: Yes
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WoW... I got through 1 minute of it and closed it. I would like the think that Tau players due to the CC handicap we have... honestly are stronger players tactically. I constantly have to think more in depth... turns ahead and try to box off and systematically fire my units in a manner to cause MAX damage. Example(s): -Making sure I shoot a rear fire warrior team first that is not in rapid fire range, and hope to hit with a marker light to give a flanking FW team a +1 BS at 24 shots. I could easily get over exited and just “slip up” and fire off 24 shots at 4+. -Always setting up in a manner to cover weak spots because we have some of the easiest to exploit... -Being able to adjust unit roles from defense to offense with very weak CC skills overall. -Playing in a synergistic manner at all times, using each unit like a puzzle piece to achieve victory NOT just mondo rush into the masses with 30+ attacks AP3... in a Zooming Dumpster with wings. The things stated above for most armies are little tactical flukes easily fixed by one CC result, but for the Tau they can make or brake a game. We don't have mass +2 armor saves with FnP and power weapons to charge in and re-roll misses blah blah.... That's fine... I have FarSight and his 7 friends (1Fail Safe Detonator) ...then their little 14 friends around. Maybe toss in a Shas'o ...1,086points. I will gladly play a 1,500pt + army with just the bomb (for fun), and watch the other players face as I march across the board laying waste. If I could wipe players in 5th with it I'm sure I can in 6th. No wonder why they took out the Target Locks. Funny back in 5th to see every Tank minus LRs (unless you have BS teams) get popped first Tau turn by the Bomb. Tomorrow I'm going to bring a TriPod and my Camera and record a video of this. The VRT trick works for the bomb right? so long as the Shas'O does not take drones??? I need to make sure b/c as of now I am writing a list out. Rant Finished -End Transmission- Merged double-postJust played a mock game with my self. My 1,500 point V Marines list VS my bomb list. Purge the Alien Dawn of war.... Farsight's army 9 victory points to Blood Angels 1. My battlesuit team failed LD test and bounced out...could not kill a full unit. Yes I play games with my test things =) and I did not go easy at all. FarSight 5 Bgs 1Shas'o 10 shield drones. Round after round 95% shots all focused on the Bomb and I made it into assualt with a terminator squad.... The bomb still had FarSight Shas'o, and 1 Shas'vre at the end of the game. Tau suck....  and by the end of the game the V marines only had a few tac squads left. (13 models)
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Shas'Saal
- Amruin
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 08:49 |
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Actually i have now one fear that GW might listen to these people and alter the Tau codex into a cheap Spess Mehreens copy. But on the other hand, the only thing GW ever listens to is the sound of money flowing in their pockets.
As for the video itself i went to check the B.o.W. site to see the comments these 2 guys said that the video was made on purpose so bad in an attempt to motivate GW to release the codex faster. Well even if that was true, this does not explain the previous bad video about the Tau. Lastly half the time i could not understand what they were saying (being not a native english speaker surely adds to it) is this only me or even native english speakers have that difficulty??
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Fio'Saal
- Shi'mont'ka
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 09:00 |
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Joined: Jul 01 2010 02:45 Location: Leonardtown, MD Native English speaker?: Yes
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I don't know what everyone is so angry about, I love their dry humor.
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Shas'Saal
- Shas'o Haruhi
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 09:18 |
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Joined: May 15 2012 11:26 Native English speaker?: Yes
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Amruin wrote: As for the video itself i went to check the B.o.W. site to see the comments these 2 guys said that the video was made on purpose so bad in an attempt to motivate GW to release the codex faster. Well even if that was true, this does not explain the previous bad video about the Tau. Is that what they are saying now? Because I remember reading the comments they were posting several days after and they were defending their video and build. Sounds like a massive PR backpeddling action to me. Amruin wrote: Lastly half the time i could not understand what they were saying (being not a native english speaker surely adds to it) is this only me or even native english speakers have that difficulty?? Darrel has an Irish accent and mixes in a lot of local slang/colloquial terms into his speech. I wouldn't feel too bad about having trouble understanding them at times. I have the same issue with Japanese in Japan because there are several strong accents in Japan.
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Shas'La
- BDA
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 10:18 |
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Joined: Apr 16 2009 06:58 Location: UK Native English speaker?: Yes
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Apparently they have removed a lot of the negative comments that first game up.
What really annoys me is a friend watched it who likes the game but cannot afford to collect and dose not really know the rules and he ruddy well believed them……… BoW fail to be funny, fail to be informative and fail to entertaining……….
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Shas'Saal
- Huntersux
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 01:28 |
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Joined: Feb 16 2012 11:58 Native English speaker?: Yes
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Honestly these guys were not taking any part of the tau codex seriously. Let em. Our codex has only gotten stronger in the new 6th. BoW has some very awesome videos aside from this strange form of humor. I'm inclined to believe that they actually are throwing it out there to light a fire under GW's buttocks because they were so ridiculous. But really now, if someone watches this and tries to say that its super insulting, then they've been buttoned up in their devilfish for far too long. Tau are the most looked down upon codex (don't give me the daemon arguement). Period. We all know the argument against them. BUT WE STILL RACK UP OUR RAILGUNS AND GET IN ON SOME GREATER GOOD  There are viable tactics/units we use and our fluff alone is what makes this army fun to play. Be not discouraged fellow Tau. These gue'la know not their failings. We must educate them on their mistakes 
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Shas'Saal
- Shas'o Haruhi
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 02:11 |
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Huntersux wrote: Honestly these guys were not taking any part of the tau codex seriously. Let em. Our codex has only gotten stronger in the new 6th. BoW has some very awesome videos aside from this strange form of humor. I'm inclined to believe that they actually are throwing it out there to light a fire under GW's buttocks because they were so ridiculous. But really now, if someone watches this and tries to say that its super insulting, then they've been buttoned up in their devilfish for far too long. Tau are the most looked down upon codex (don't give me the daemon arguement). Period. We all know the argument against them. BUT WE STILL RACK UP OUR RAILGUNS AND GET IN ON SOME GREATER GOOD  There are viable tactics/units we use and our fluff alone is what makes this army fun to play. Be not discouraged fellow Tau. These gue'la know not their failings. We must educate them on their mistakes  I don't think any part of their video is acceptable to be put out to the public. Far too many players will probably watch this and go to the store to waste their money. Filth such as this should be taken down, regardless of it's intended humor. At least put a "trolling in progress" disclaimer on it.
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Shas'O
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 05:36 |
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Joined: Feb 26 2006 04:45 Location: Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland Native English speaker?: Yes
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...and I think that's enough vitriol against Beasts of War. No, not defending them because I come from (literally) round the corner from where they are based in Northern Ireland. I agree that some of the discussions that I have heard being made by BoW members about the Tau have been flawed, but "bashing" of any site is not the mature way of ATT.
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Shas'Ui
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 07:01 |
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Joined: Nov 08 2008 12:22 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Native English speaker?: Yes
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Our Honoured Shas'O is correct. It is true that what BOW have said may deter new players from starting Tau and no doubt it may lead to some jokes at our expense but this is no change to usual, for a long time Tau have been considered by many to be the least playable army. I agree that BOW should have put some better research into their video and I wouldn't mind if they posted a retraction stating problems which have been indicated to them in their previous video but posting online with grievances about them does not help the spread of the Tau'Va. The best way to counter any negative publicity from this is to do what we always do, go out, take part in games and show just how playable we are. And don't give the team at BOW too much flak, they made a mistake (several in fact) but remember they are Gue'La and no Gue'La is perfect 
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Shas'Ui
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Post subject: Re: Oh dear lord, Beastsofwar tries to make the Tau better Posted: Aug 02 2012 11:21 |
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And to be honest do we really want Tau to be as commonly played as other armies? If anything our codex reputation means those of us who do play Tau most likely know what we're doing which helps with our player reputation. Anyone can pick up Marines, but the exclusivity of Tau is, in its own way, a bonus to collecting them.
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