http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/P ... update.pdf

According to this PDf on FW... anything with a 40k stamp is now 100% legal to use in any regular games.

You no longer need approval. You simply inform them of the unit.


Hope this isnt old news!

The recent imperial armour books has a section explaining the seals each unit has. The 40k seal means its legal for 40k.games, apocalypse seal means its apoc only. You don't need to ask permission

Alright, while I know it was their intention to get Forgeworld models into regular 40k... the explanation could easily be construed as "you still have to ask permission". Consider the case where your opponent is not "happy to play a game with Forgeworld models"; are you supposed to tell them "too bad, play or don't" or whip out your non-FW list?

EDIT: Entirely unrelated, but the XV-84 provides a target lock to the battlesuit... which, per our FAQ, don't exist anymore... the more that happens, the more I think that was a misprint.

Consider the case where you're not happy to play a game with Landraiders, or Monoliths, or.....

If the unit is approved for use in the game, then you can use it - and this also applies to things like units released in White Dwarf, special characters, and even to rules like the Warlord traits, Mysterious terrain, and all the other things that people state they're not going to use.

If you want to ignore certain units or rules, then that should be communicated in advance. Tournament rules / guidelines, club rules, etc., exist to do just that, so everyone knows what to expect.

Of course, not playing is an option, as is bringing an alternative "Codex-only" list if you know that some players will refuse to play against certain elements of your army. I guess it depends on your local playing group!

That update is a 5th Ed update (from back towards the beginning of the year IIRC). If/when FW give up a 6th Ed update, it will be linked to from their download page.

The XV-81 is a lot more viable now (and cheap), since battlesuits now have proper relentless instead of relentless-lite.

Also note the latest overall update made the Sentry Turrets a form of Artillery unit that doens't need gun crew.

As thye are no logner vehicles I beleive this means they are technically a scoring unit.

A scoring unit of T7 2 Wound Models with great weapons a 3+ save that can't be locked combat and can have a permanent 5+ cover save or 4+ invulnerable save added to it.

sentry turrets are never scoring or contesting units as per the most recent tau update. I think a change from AV12 to T7 W2 is a downgrade, now that even heavy bolters and autocannons can take them out reliably. i say place them inside ruins for +4 cover save when any ap3 or better shoots at them

Is there a link to the updated sentry drones stats? Ie the T7 W2 profile? I looked at the FW site and found the update changing them to artillery, but did not see the updated T and W profile over there armor value...

Shock at: drat, missed that.

J'Karra: All artillery supposedly have the same stats, see new rule book.

By that token shouldn't they have four wounds? The IG artillery carriage is T7 W4

I think that is an exception, and why it is listed in special rules section. Our turrets should have 2 wounds.

Really? Where was that FAQed?
I don't remember seeing that in our Codex FAQ, and I would love to be able to use the FW battlesuit with a markerlight.

I belive its updated in them being jetpack infantry. Per the core rulebook.

Except our codex explicitly prohibits Battle Suits from moving and firing heavy weapons, and since Codex > BRB it would need to be FAQed that they can move and fire heavy weapons without an ASS.

I would love to be proved wrong on this though...

It *was* FAQ'd, happily - there are two entries in the FAQ:



The remainder of the text isn't super important, the relevant thing is that it specifically says to *replace* the old entries with the new, and the new ones make no mention whatsoever of not being able to move+fire with heavy weapons, so that limitation is gone.

One major problem with taking IA units, is as soon as your Space Marine or Imperial Guard opponent sees you are taking IA units, they can say something like "Oh, well since you can take something for FW, I'll take this special character from the Badab Wars that gives every infantry model in my army Infiltrate." Or, for a Guard player "If you get to take that Tetra, then I get to take this ridiculously over powered tank!" etc etc. Lets just say a huge freaking army of Jump Infantry space marines, an honor guard, and other things with guns and pointy sticks starting the game 18 inches from me didn't end well. (I was tabled in 3 Turns)

People don't want to except the fact that the Tau need these untis as a crutch.


Also, were the heck does it say the Turrets are artillery? In the update it says they are armor 12 all around.

It also doesn't seem to be in any of these:

Apocalypse Update - 20/07/2012

Characters Update - 20/07/2012

Decimator Update - 20/07/2012

Deimos Predator Executioner Update - 20/07/2012

Heavy Artillery Carriage Update - 20/07/2012

Imperial Armour Allies Update - 20/07/2012

Imperial Guard Rapier Update - 20/07/2012

Space Marine Rapier - 20/07/2012

Psykers - 20/07/2012

Vehicles Update - 20/07/2012

Spartan Assault Tank Experimental Rules - 20/07/2012

I checked in Vehicles Update, since it has an armor value and all. Nothing. Its not a character, or a spyker, or any of the IG stuff.

I can't find it!

I'm curious which units you had problems with. Specific names, please.



Page 1 of the above PDF.

Um, dude, IG (and some other armies) are way, way stronger than Tau with or without "ridiculously overpowered tanks" from Forge World.



Personally I take them because I love the models.

The entry on page 27 of C:TE still explicitly forbids firing heavy weapons after an XV-8x variant has moved.
While Jetpack Infantry grants us relentless, C:TE takes it away for heavy weapons.