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 Post subject: Re: TheAmbit's IG - Need Colour Help
PostPosted: Jun 16 2010 07:44 
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Hey Theambit,

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IMO it looks like its right between Bestial Brown and Desert Yellow.
Hope this helps a little.

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 Post subject: Re: TheAmbit's IG - Need Colour Help
PostPosted: Jun 16 2010 09:48 
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Thanks a lot guys, I'm sure it's a little off due to potential brand issues or washes and dry brushing, but that helps a lot!

I'm sure I won't match it but I would like it close; I don't want it to be a yellow-ish brown.

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 Post subject: Re: TheAmbit's IG - Need Colour Help
PostPosted: Jun 16 2010 01:11 
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I'd say Graveyard Earth with a Devlan Mud wash.

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 Post subject: Re: TheAmbit's IG - First Chimera
PostPosted: Jun 19 2010 03:22 
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My order is apparently still on order, so I picked up a chimera in the mean time. I also took my necromunda 'Enforcers' Gang and replaced their weapons to fill a veteran squad position.

Here's my chimera after a lot of cutting:
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The multilaser is removable and I'm going to come up with some way to fashion hellhounds out of them. I guess the photo is a poor angle of the back; I placed a single track guard on the rear diagonal and attached handles as a step ladder to the top. I would have liked complete track guards but they're no longer in the chimera kits and I don't plan to spend 30% of the tanks value on forgeworld track covers.

Again, I appreciate the colour suggestions, and I think I'm settled on Graveyard Earth for the tanks and Khemri fatigues and Charadon Granite Flak armour. Devlan washes and Denab dry brushing to brighten them. I did a quick test paint on the bottom and I definitely will be having a friend spray gun them as these light browns have really poor coverage.

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 Post subject: Re: TheAmbit's IG - Chimera Assembled
PostPosted: Jun 19 2010 03:31 
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I like the look of that Chimera.

I'll have to start my Gue'vesa version sooner or later.

Good luck on this project.

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Reinforcements Arrived
PostPosted: Jun 28 2010 09:47 
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I've never had the opportunity to post such a picture; so here is what arrived in the mail today.

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I decided to put up some brief fluff on my Space Marines and IG regiment on the first page, and merge my two Imperial Threads. I'm going to also take new pictures of the Space Marines when I get the chance.

Hopefully I'm not too distracted by the plastic crack above. Thanks for the colour help everyone gave. I've decided to go with chardon grey armour and khemri fatigues with graveyard earth tank armour.

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Reinforcements Arrived
PostPosted: Jun 28 2010 10:07 
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Holy moly! That is a bunch of Guard. Five chimeras, two manticores, a Valkyrie, maybe a battleforce, and a heavy weapons team. That must be close to $300 worth of plastic. I envy you.

That chimera conversion is great, but why mount the turret on the back?

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Reinforcements Arrived
PostPosted: Jun 28 2010 10:10 
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ShadowSword wrote:
Holy moly! That is a bunch of Guard. Five chimeras, two manticores, a Valkyrie, maybe a battleforce, and a heavy weapons team. That must be close to $300 worth of plastic. I envy you.

That chimera conversion is great, but why mount the turret on the back?


I think it cost me £230 with shipping. Maelstromgames has pretty good prices after the conversions if you're from over seas. You nailed the contents though.

The turret is on the back (more like middle :)) because I think it looks far more realistic and like a modern vehicle that way. It may cut an inch off my range but I think it is a minor issue when I like the look better. Now I have to convert 5 more chimeras to match!

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Reinforcements Arrived
PostPosted: Jun 29 2010 02:24 
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Shas'Vre Theambit, how far have you strayed from the Tau, Va :sad: Rejoin the spark that is the greater good.

Very impressive order! I remember I was happy when I received 5 battlesuits but you just bought/received an entire mech IG battalion! Now comes the best part. Putting it al together! Have a good summer ;)


Yeah I'm a bad person; My Tau army reached a size that included basically every unit and I'd done as much as I could with them creatively so there was nothing left aside from Tau gameplay which I've felt quite lacking lately. Ergo, Imperial Forces! - TheAmbit

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Vet Squad Painted
PostPosted: Jul 01 2010 09:39 
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I've finished up a Veteran Squad or at least 9 members of the squad. I'm really unsure of where the 10th guy ran off to. . . Maybe I need a commisar to stand guard in my closet.

So this is the colour scheme I decided on; the fatigues are khemri brown and the armour plating is charadon granite. The entire model is dry brushed with denab stone and devlan mud washed. The armour is then washed with badab black. I'm pretty happy with them; although as always, my basing is poor but I do plan to add some dead grass to the bases next time I'm out and see what colours are in the store.

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I have also put my valkyrie and a manticore together just to try out the new kits which were quite fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Vet Squad Painted
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TheAmbit you is a very mad-sir, 10 boxes of Gue'las´s... This looks very cool :D

I bet you have them finished by the end of July ;) Anyways no matter how long it will take, I really look forward on progress.

Sofar the Vet-Squad is looking very good and solid. But I think they are lacking some detail, since it's Vets you could paint some chipping on the armour or just simply add a "special"-squad marking.

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Vet Squad Painted
PostPosted: Jul 02 2010 10:06 
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minamoto wrote:
TheAmbit you is a very mad-sir, 10 boxes of Gue'las´s... This looks very cool :D

I bet you have them finished by the end of July ;) Anyways no matter how long it will take, I really look forward on progress.

Sofar the Vet-Squad is looking very good and solid. But I think they are lacking some detail, since it's Vets you could paint some chipping on the armour or just simply add a "special"-squad marking.


Maybe not end of July, but probably sooner than later :) I was debating squad markings but since I will likely constantly change up the squad make up or sometimes use them as line troops, squad markings would quickly become inaccurate.

I think I will try to weather the tanks quite a bit; but maybe something on the armour could work. I hesitate as the plates are so small it could quickly turn into an issue much the same way as camo does when applied on an army wide scale. Right now the guardsman appear as a faceless swarm of men which seems true to the idea.

Does that make sense? I don't want them to look poka-dot, and using small chaos black/chainmail weathering as I did on my orks looks a bit too cartoony on IG. Any ideas on a way around this? They're probably too small to sponge.

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Reinforcements Arrived
PostPosted: Jul 02 2010 10:19 
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Theambit wrote:
I think in pounds it cost me $230 with shipping. Maelstromgames has pretty good prices after the conversions if you're from over seas. You nailed the contents though.

The turret is on the back (more like middle :)) because I think it looks far more realistic and like a modern vehicle that way. It may cut an inch off my range but I think it is a minor issue when I like the look better. Now I have to convert 5 more chimeras to match!



I just rarely see someone who's put so much money into one order, though this isn't the most expensive order ever (my brother's thunderhawk was far more.)

And it makes sense to make it look like a modern tank, but it just looks so funny looking with it there.

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Vet Squad Painted
PostPosted: Jul 02 2010 03:38 
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Theambit wrote:
Maybe not end of July, but probably sooner than later :) I was debating squad markings but since I will likely constantly change up the squad make up or sometimes use them as line troops, squad markings would quickly become inaccurate.
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Does that make sense? I don't want them to look poka-dot, and using small chaos black/chainmail weathering as I did on my orks looks a bit too cartoony on IG. Any ideas on a way around this? They're probably too small to sponge.


Well with "suad-marking" I meant particular a symbol, only used on that squad to make it oustanding, like a ace or a pin-up, etc.

As for the battle damage you might be right... it will only confuse in the mass.
I found out what it may be, that was missing, realised by lookin at them again. It's the big bath of cloth that is just mono-colour. Either you wash the cloth a bit, to give it depth or just try something with the trousers...

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Armoured Supply Drop
PostPosted: Jul 04 2010 06:53 
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ShadowSword: Maybe you'll think it looks better when they're painted up. You may be too used to seeing the standard chimera. I quite like them this way.

minamoto: I tried to add something to them as you can see in the bottom of the below picture (it's small, sorry). I don't feel I can paint well enough for that sort of damage, and I ended up painting over it. It was somewhat subtle but I think it looked really bad up close. I think part of the issue may be the dark colour of the armour. I've seen a lot of really nice battle damaged tau pieces on this board with that style of chip but it is always lighter armour which I think lends itself better to that technique.

This was my weekend; 2 sets of tracks per tank, 12 pieces per set, 6 tanks; that is a lot of pieces to clean flashing off of!

I couldn't resist making the turret for the Command Chimera so I put that together before the greenstuff was dry. I still have to file all of that down and add the viewports and add rivets and doors, but you get the idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Armoured Supply Drop
PostPosted: Jul 04 2010 10:21 
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Theambit :
That is quite a lot of flash to clean off, but the tracks and tanks look good, so looks like it was worth it! Just two questions: what is the white washer-type mount for, and the tank all the way to the left looks like it hasn't been converted yet, so is that just another thing on the agenda or left as-is for a reason?

Great job so far, and I really like the middle mount for the turrets. Very menacing looking...

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Armoured Supply Drop
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Oops I suppose I should have pointed that out; the far left tank is a Manticore. I was just building hulls! There was no real way to convert the Manticore that I could think of but it is such a nice kit I wasn't bothered.

The white mount is a tank wheel from the baneblade kit. The fellow I got it from had primed it white. It is nothing but a fancy tank bit strapped on for spare parts ;)

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 Post subject: Chimera Options
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Since it appears to be a slow Tau day, I figured now was as good a time as any to throw up some more ideas.

I was looking through my bits box after making a trade yesterday and noticed I had a space whirlwind turret that I havn't been using. I figured it would be a great way to add a potential third Manticore to my army should the need arise.

If you look at the image you can see the whirlwind turret (of course I'm not the first to think of that I'm sure) but it is swappable onto my converted chimeras which is always a plus. You can also see the weapon swap out options available so far. I'm made a multilaser of course and the currently equipped is my counts-as hellhound turret. I doubt I will get any arguements over the hellhound since they share a hull anyway; the prometheum is simply hidden safely inside the shell!

On a general hobby note; I tried out something different than magnets. You'll notice the multilaser has a small tube extending from the rear; this fits into a larger tube on the turret. I was running out of magnets so this seems to work just fine and no chance of messing up the polarity across models! People may wish to try this out for turret swaps on hammerheads in the future if they can't get magnets readily.

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Chimera/Manticore Swap
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Ohhhh lovely tanks :D great effort sofar, looks very promising.

The command-Chimeras turret has a very good feel, love the spare tracks mounted on the turrets hull and all the other equipment.

also a very good idea with the tubing instead of magnet-use. But GW does this on the new thanks aswell, if I am not mistaking. What I wonder is how endurable is this? the parts seem to fit very firm but what after changing the barrels ten times?
so I think a small magnet for holding the barrel in a firm position is needed, sure for a quick solution after runnning out of magnets this is incredible.
Would like to read what you expierienced with that.

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 Post subject: Re: Tarkonis IV: Imperial Forces - Completed Vets
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Oh I didn't know GW did that with pegs too. It seems like it will be sturdy long into the future as it is a plastic weld; not super glue. The plastic tubes are machined or extruded to fit inside one another so I doubt they will wear. They're also about 1.5 cm long which should help them not wobble. I guess time will tell!

I bought some grass and had my first attemp with fake grass on bases. I like how they turned out and have decided to seal them now. If you can see close enough, I have added battle scrapes and a bit more highlight using some inspiration from SpartanTau's wonderful new Firewarrior. Not too over done though. I mean realistically too many battles and a guardsman won't come home if you know what I mean :)

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I really hope I don't mess up the grass with the sealant. Do people typically do that before or after?

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