Hello everybody!!

This thread has nothing to do with Tau, but for this case we have the Enemies&Allies. Here I want to show you why I shifted from my beloved High Elves to Warhammer 40K. Everything starts with 500 points and ended in a full battlecompany.
After GW released the new Codex Space Marines I got a little bit nervous, because I felt to enlarge my SM army even further. Some drop pods and another sternguard would be nice. But one character catched my eye. Since I play the Chapter of the Crimson Fists I must have a Pedro Kantor in my army. Because I dislike metal miniatures and I felt my tinker nerve itching I started my own Kantor.
He is almost done. I only have to choose a head and to decide if I should make the ammunition belt. To model something which hangs in the air is not my specialty (maybe someone of you has a good advice for me).

Since the admins "highjacked" this thread , you can ignore the text above. Here is a little guide through this thread

Page 1
Tutorial: Ammunition belt for Kantors stormbolter
finished Pedro Kantor

Page 2
Some techniques I use to sculpt and my tools
Beginning of my Crimson Fists version of Sgt. Chrouns. Which parts I used.
Tutorial: Rim for the shoulderguard and Crimson/Imperial Fists iconography

Page 3
Tutorial: Helmet for Sgt. Chrouns
Tutorial: Additional armour for the arms
Tutorial: Laurel
Tutorial: Iron Armour
Tutorial: Backpack with servorarm
Tutorial: Upperbody
finished Sgt. Chrouns

Beginning of my Crimson Fists version of Sgt. Telion. Which parts I used.
Tutorial: Stalker bolter
Tutorial: Reconstruction of the Aquilla
Tutorial: Repositioning of scout legs and knee guards with X symbole
Tutorial: Crux Terminatus

Page 4
Tutorial: mohawk and sighting mechanism
Tutorial: Cloak
finished Stg. Telion



I do not know which head looks better. The first one is similar to the new miniature and the second one looks more like the picture, which represents Kantor (4th edition rulebook).



Here I changed some details compared to the GW miniature just because I want it



Since I have never seen the original model of Kantor from every side, I decided to model the personal heraldry on the left shoulderguard, which is shown on the banner. C&C is welcome.

Next week I will be at home again. Than I can take some pictures of the rest of my army.

in one word : WOW!
I haven't seen such sculpting-excellence in quite a time.
I would most definitely take the helmeted head, for the sculpts and such already make it stand out the rest of your army (I guess..) and the laurels are doing a great job adorning a SM head.... Are you also planning on making a back banner?
I don't like to sculpt hanging things either so I would personally go for a drum magazine in stead of an ammo feeding belt.

like to see the finished model and keep up the good work
PoisonBladeNL

Incredible. Absolutely incredible. I wish I had the skill to do things like this...

I'll Markerlight this thread for movement to Enemies and Allies, But, IMO, it should stay in the concourse due to the High Quality of the content.

That really is incredible sculpting work. I personally favor the helmet head, but I don't think you could go wrong with either choice. Beautiful stuff! If you're still in the process of sculpting, would you be willing to do a tutorial for us?

Can't wait to see the finished model.

Good ML tag Fraggle but I'm going to leave this here for a bit to let some of the 'Saal ranked users add their comments.

I concur. I'll alter the title slightly to reflect better the content of the thread.

Stunningly good sculpting.

E.

really impressive ... i'd wish i'd had those skills

For the ammo belt, if you are REALLY dead set on having it on your model I would suggest getting some bass guitar strings and using them as a base to work up from.
Get them into an approximate shape that you are happy with, then GS/plasticard combo to build up the ammo feed.
My personal prefrence is to go with the helmeted version, the bare head looks like it is having trouble moving in all that power armour :p straining and struggling.

As everyone has suggested so far, I agree it is nice to meet another person with your GS skills.
You have some very intricate handiwork on this model
after you've painted it I'm sure you'll have questions about which model it is, followed by disbelief that you did the GS work yourself

Thanks for your comments.


I almost had not found it again. I thought someone had deleted it

Ack! Should have PMed you about it. Sorry about that. ~ Eigle.


No ... These banners are something I never get used to. I can imagine, that it would be very hard to embark a rhino with it I only use this banners as object markers or to show everybody that a building is in the hand of my army


Good advice!! I think that my magnets will be useful eventually. I have plenty of them and did not find any use for this little power packs


This miniature is almost done, but if you let me know what you want to see, it would not be a problem. I also want to make my own sternguard. I think that they will not be as heavy ornamented as Kantor, but I plan to give them their own heraldry.

*Edit: I was on the phone while I wrote this and have missed djhg's post


I thought about using a wire. I do not have experince with guitar strings. Are they very inflexible?

Dear God...That is so incredible, it makes want to start typing obscene words to fully emphasize my awe, but I won't, because there is no need and I might get banned for it

Certainly a slap on the back of the head like Gibbs administers to DeNozo and Magee in "NCIS" anyway! ~ Eigle

I, too, must agree that the helmeted head looks better.

Again, that is ridiculously good sculpting. My awe is so great that my adjectives no longer make any sense, it's that spectacular.

I might as well add my opinion to the others... helmeted head.

Also, good work with the GS. I would love to be able to produce work like that! My son plays Ultramarines and doesn't want to shell out the $$ for Sternguard. Currently he is using some Tyranid War Veterns to stand in for them.

Some of the things I'm most curious about are the "behind the scenes" things such as...

Do you have any particular techniques that you like to use to prepare the green stuff?
What kinds of tools do you use?
...things like that.

I know you're already done with the shoulder pad, but that was such great work that I would love to see something like that take shape in a step-by-step process. I don't want you to have to back track on your project, though. Perhaps, if it isn't too much trouble, you could take some work-in-process photos while you're working on your sternguard, that would be awesome.

I'd say go with the helmet, but that may be just me. Personally I'm attracted to helmets over heads but, watev, it's looking great keep up the good work!

FREFEL!
Blasphemy... Heretic, enlight him!

How can you say such a thing. I love painting metal miniatures, they feel better and are more detailed and I think that will never change. Ok in the last years the quality decreases little, yes I know what I said about my XV88 metal parts. Only the resin modells of FW do have the same standard then metal figures.
Maybe I am a bit too oldschool - I started with warhamer 40k almost every figure was made of metal. I think the gretchins (gobbos) were out of plastic and the new eldar guardians came out all in the same pose

Anyways your GS sculpting skills are amazing! those "grimson" (yet green ) fists are really awesome. And those Eagles.
Awesome - I am speachless

I think next time I visit my aunt in Erlangen I make a short trip to Würzburg, just to learn from you how to sculp .

I would also agree with the rest of them about the helmeted head and also the skill you have in sculpting with GS.

And I also agree with you that Pedro Kantor is spectacular. If I were to choose a space marine army it would definitely be them! And Kantor would be the first character I will ever use in any GW games, other than LoTR which I played years ago.

Thank you for your replies and your compliments! I am blushing


No problem. Finally found it again ... I am really stubborn so you cannot hide it from me


Nothing wrong with that. Since the rules of the Tyranid War Veterans no longer exits, thats their traditional place. I really think that the rules of the sternguard makes them better Tyranid hunters than the Tyranid War Veterans . If I am honest I really envied the "smurfs" (Schluempfe) for that unit. The models look very cool.


No problem! I will post some pictures of my work. Next week I will not be in Wuerzburg (a short holiday!! I will go hiking, ride my mountainbike, try to paint some minis ....... slobber), so I can start with my sternguard the week after that. I have a lot of shoulder guards left, so if you wish I can try to replicate that one of Kantor.


I do not hate metal miniatures ... its just ... everytime they tumble you can paint them again The worst miniatures are metal platic hybrid minitaures. Everytime they tuble you not only have to paint them but also glue them again. In the near future, I hope that I can find some time to replace the weapons of my Devastors. Oh ... me too starts in this prehistoric days to play. I still have an old rhino (It is a relict of my original 500 pts army ) ... just let me know when you will burst in

Next projects: Sternguard and my Crimson Fists versions of Sgt. Telion and Sgt. Chronus.

Why not do a tutorial on either Telion or Chronos? Kantor's home version has shown us just how good you obviously are. A different model with plenty of pictures and text 'walk-through' would mean that you would not run the problem of comparison of the repeated model (Kantor) to the original.

E.

No problem

Finally, I have decided to make an ammo belt for the Stormbolter of Kantor. I took some pictures to show you how I did it. For the belt I only used the GW sculpting tool, a lot of water and two rulers.



1. I cut off the the “exhaust” of the backpack and drilled two holes for the wire, which I used as a frame for the belt. I drilled the holes very close together, because the belt should not be to broad. I did the same thing on the Stormbolter.
2. I bend two wires and glued them with superglue. It is a little bit tricky and annoying to bend the wire, but when the first wire is done, you can use it as a pattern for the second one.
3. I took some GreenStuff and wrapped it around the wires. It is important not to use too much GS, because otherwise the belt will be too thick.
4. Then I used a the flat side of the tool to create the basic form of the belt.



It is best, if you wait 20 minutes before you go on. The GS should dry a little bit, because otherwise the belt will deform too strong if you exert pressure.

5. Now I used the sharp side of the tool to draw some furrows on every side of the belt
6. I segmented the belt with a sharp tool. I tried to imitate the ammo belt of the heavy bolter.
7. Since the furrows were too broad, I used the flat side of the tool again. With a little pressure not only the furrows will close a little bit, but it will also even the segments, too.
8. Here is the finished product. As you can see, I used too much GS and the belt was too thick, so I started again.



9. After the belt dried (again), I took some GS and rolled it between my fingers.
10. I laid the GS piece on the Stormbolter to create a transition from the belt to the Bolter. This was the time, on which the battery of my camera decided to run low, so I cannot show more details.
11. I took the backside of the sharp side of the tool to squeeze the GS. The sharp egde of the tool is enough to form the transition the way you can see it.



12. Now the funny part. I took some GS and used two rulers and a lot of water to ....
13. .... crate a roll. The rulers make sure, that the roll has the same thickness (that is the most important technique I use to create ornamental frames, ribbons and so on )
14. I cut a little bit of the roll and ....
15. .... laid it on the belt between two segments. With a little pressure I fixed it on the belt. I used the sharp side of the tool to create little cuboids.
16. After I did it another fifty-one times, the ammo belt was complete.



For the head-problem I decided to use a magnet, which I fixed on the torso (17). That caused a funny problem, because I only have tools, which were made out of ferromagnetic metal and the magnet refused to stay at place. I had to make my own tool out of a sprue to add and even the GS . I cut off a part of the necks of the heads and milled them out to attach some wire (18)(19).

In a week I will start my conversion of my Crimson Fists version of Chronus.

My short holidays are over and nothing went as intended. It was too cold to ride my bike and it was not cold enough to use my snow shoes, so I painted my Kantor. The outcome could be seen on the following picture. Hope you will enjoy it. C&C is welcome



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Now, see, the problem here is when you go to the store to play a couple games with him, no one will believe that you sculpted it. That is just incredible. It looks amazing.

i really love it! i wish i could do that just 1/4 as good as you do!!

really good job keep it up