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 Post subject: R'myr to Farsight conversion
PostPosted: Aug 05 2010 09:09 
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I am taking a 1750 Farsight list to a local tournament in a couple of weeks, and the main reason I picked Farsight was that it would give me an opportunity to model him. I am not a fan (putting it mildly) of the official Farsight model, so I bought another Shas'o R'myr from Forgeworld and turned him into Commander O'Shovah.

For his Dawn Blade I quickly settled on the Wraithlord's weapon as the one to use, but I couldn't get a hold of the piece from any of the bits sites. I bit the bullet, ordered a Wraithlord hand and scratchbuilt the sword from plasticard.

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I printed out a photo of the sword from one of the bits sites at various scales, picked the one I wanted, glued it to some 2mm plasticard and cut it out.

For the handle, I used the chain from a Chaos defiler close combat weapon.

His hand is from the Wraithlord kit.

I couldn't use the forearm that came with R'myr, as it had the twin plasma rifles attached, so I carefully trimmed a normal XV8 arm, cutting the joint just above the elbow, then sliced through the elbow joint leaving only the outer side remaining. After that I drilled a hole in the elbow for the resin upper-arm piece to slot into.

The metal Tau symbol on the sword came from my bits box, and thanks to Old Shatter Hands I now know that it comes from the Farsight kit itself! How I came to have Farsight bits in my bitsbox I have no idea, but that's what I call serendipity.

To ensure the necessary strength in the sword, I drilled a 0.5mm hole in the top and bottom of the hand, and corresponding holes in the sword and handle, pinning them with some brass rod through the hand.

On the reverse of the sword, I needed something to cover up the weapon slot in the forearm, so took fuel cells from two fusion blasters and connected them with more of the 0.5mm brass rod.

Adding the plasma rifle to his left (shield) arm was simplicity itself, as it fits in snugly just in front of his hand. I considered using the left hand from a Wraithlord, but after blutac-ing it in place decided it didn't really look right. A piece clipped from a pulse carbine covers the join between plasma rifle and hand.

Since taking these, I have done a tiny amount of greenstuffing at some joins, and I am now in the middle of painting him.

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I have also made a larger, 50mm base for him. He looks better mounted on that, and I will take both along to the competition, in case anyone objects to the larger base size.

Here is a scale shot vs a Killa Kan:-

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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
PostPosted: Aug 05 2010 09:32 
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Sholto, you swine! ;)

I'm almost done with doing the exact same thing! No pics though, I'm going to enter in the model/fluff competition. :roll:

I know how hard it is to find that damn sword. They are in really high demand.

Great idea on the 'legal' base. Going to make one asap.

The model looks great. The sword arm looks really cool. The hand is really well merged with the arm.

Can't wait to see it finished.

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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
PostPosted: Aug 05 2010 10:04 
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*raises hand* I'm actually working on a very similar suit as well, only for a meek first attempt at entering GD. I've got nearly the exact same pose, though I've built off of XV-9 with Rymyr head/shield. So I guess mine is more of a future-tech Farsight?

Your model is looking good, I think it makes a very impressive looking farsight. Are you planning to incorporate the Farsight double bunnyear antenna? I really couldnt find anything that looked right on the Rymyr helm, but those antenna are part of what makes Farsight recognizable. In the end I used them on the shoulders, but the XV-9 chasis has a lot more room.

Can't wait to see him painted up!

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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
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Nicely executed Sholto! :D

I was always wondering if it was possible to fix the plasma rifle directly on the shield. but It seems that you've done it well.

But now, I've got a question. What position seems the most natural to attach each weapons?

Case (1) The shield and the sword on the same arm and the plasma on the other. (GW style)

  • Pro: Since the two close weapons are attached together, the plasma rifle could be easily handled.
  • Con: attack and parry at the same time is pretty difficult now since you can't do the both in the same instant


Case (2) The shield and the plasma rifle on the same arm and the sword on the other. (Sholto style)

  • Pro: attack and parry are now available since the two close weapons are separate on two limbs.
  • Con: the confinement chamber of the rifle is dangerously exposed when the shield will block an attack


Case (3) The sword and the plasma rifle on the same arm and the shield on the other. (Martial style)

  • Pro: attack and parry is also possible.
  • Con: Shooting with the rifle is harder since the sword will restrict the movements of the arm. It's same problem when Farsight will use the sword with the rifle vulnerable like this


Case (4) The shield on one arm, the sword on the other and the plasma on one shoulder. (I didn't see this conversion yet)

  • Pro: attack and parry are not annoyed by the volume of the rifle and the plasma could be retracted on the back when assaut is on the way. The rifle have to be placed on the same side of the shield since it's the direction where the hostile shoots will come from.
  • Con: in my opinion, even if the rifle will be remoted by the mind, it's difficult to fire with since it's not really a natural placement. (It respects the fluff since O'Shovah has a lower BS than a standard Commander)

Food for thought but I like to debate on ergonomy lately, don't know why! ;)

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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
PostPosted: Aug 05 2010 10:20 
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@Yami Kero - I will keep an eye on the compo to see how your own version turns out. Best of luck!

@Revenant - I am hoping his sword is his signature rather than his headgear, as I don't like the bulky antennae the kit comes with. I feel I have honoured it by sticking the bit on his sword, though ;)

@Martial - some good points. I think the shield is an energy shield rather than a purely physical barrier, so perhaps it extends over the plasma gun barrel as well? I hadn't thought of the possibility of shoulder-mounting the gun, which might make most sense, but I just wanted something looked cool :)

EDIT: it has just occured to me that the Tau symbol on the shield should be Farsight's own symbol. Hmmm...


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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
PostPosted: Aug 05 2010 11:18 
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Man, the R'myr model is one of my favorites! Your conversions have worked really well and I envy your plasticard cutting skills with how nice the blade came out. Although, I do feel like it could be evened out a bit more since the swords edges look a little rough. Still really good though! This also raises my questions about a Crisis Suits hands. Do full hands extend from their retracted positions or are they just fingers? I like to think that they are just fingers. But I must say that you have avoided any uneven look by hiding one hand with the shield.

The pose is very dynamic and really gives the look that Farsight is coming for you! Really well done work all around. Now get him painted!

(Oh and the Ork CP looks great!)

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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
PostPosted: Aug 05 2010 01:47 
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Martial wrote:
Case (4) The shield on one arm, the sword on the other and the plasma on one shoulder. (I didn't see this conversion yet)


Hey, that means you haven't been keeping tabs on my stuff! :( I'm hurt, Martial! :::(

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As for you, Sholto, I really love the dynamic pose; the only issue I have is that the hand doesn't seem to really fit style-wise. I'd file down the fingers a bit, make then more blocky.

Wolfs16 wrote:
(Oh and the Ork CP looks great!)


Huhuhuhuh, you said "CP" :P

EDIT: The image is a link, forgot to mention that!


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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
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Orpheus Hangar wrote:
Hey, that means you haven't been keeping tabs on my stuff! :( I'm hurt, Martial! :::(


Or, apparently, on my work either!! :eek:

Martial wrote:
Case (4) The shield on one arm, the sword on the other and the plasma on one shoulder. (I didn't see this conversion yet)


Although not exactly what you had in mind, it's essentially along the same line...

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My O'Shovah conversion has the large Carbine as a "counts as" Plasma Rifle mounted on a shoulder rail system. My thought was that he would "store" the rifle on the rail ( cllicking it in on his shoulder ), then it would rotate/slide backwards into the storage position. :crafty:

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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
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These are all great Farsight conversions, in fact a few weeks ago I thought of getting a wraithlord sword for Rymr and now you guys got me sold on it!


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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
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Terminatorinhell wrote:
These are all great Farsight conversions, in fact a few weeks ago I thought of getting a wraithlord sword for Rymr and now you guys got me sold on it!


Please keep in mind that mine isn't holding a Wraithlord sword. I took the original Dawnblade and extended both the blade and handle with plasticard sheet and rod. :crafty:

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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
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Better late than never, some painted pics. Sorry for the quality - my camera is dying a slow and painful death.

I had to rush the paint job a little, so the small finishing touches are few and far between. I might redo the sword, as it should be brighter. And the wear on his armour needs some metallic glints in a few places and he generally needs some dirtying up here and there, but given the time I had left I am amazed I got him done at all.

I didn't quite stick with the traditional Farsight colours. The red was a given, I decided, but the Dheneb Stone ties him into my existing army, meaning I can use him without him looking completely out of place.

Any thoughts on what he needs to finish him off

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God that looks bad ass. :biggrin:

Consider some decapitated ork heads on the base. There's plenty of room for them! :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: R'myr to Farsight conversion
PostPosted: Sep 14 2010 03:28 
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Seeing this thread again reminds me that I have a Farsight conversion sitting looking forlornly at me from the top of the glass cabinet in the dining-room.

*Ok my pretty, Schmiegel hears you*

Just have to get my Emperor's Children out of the way first...

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